Worldwide Online Olympiad Training - WOOT!

[rrusczyk]

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 Worldwide Online Olympiad Training - WOOT!

[chess64]

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You said it's good if you can consistently get 5+ on the AIME, and that only *extremely* good middle-schoolers would benefit from it. However, many AoPSers (middle schoolers) even got 7s...

[bubala]

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No, he said that if you can't get a 5+ CONSISTENTLY, then you should definitely not join. This AIME was easier than others, so a 5 on this AIME a 5+ consistently.

That being said, I think the middle schooler thing was more about dealing with frustration and anger management issues than actual mathematical ability. There are tons of MS AoPSers who fit WOOT. w00t! I THINK (key word, think) that the issue was being able to handle getting lost in many of the problems because it would not be easy. But for someone with a ton of perserverance, it would probably be extremely helpful.

Also, it depends how you define exceptional. Exceptional to you might mean the top person in the world, whereas for others it might mean the top 100000000. So uh, yeah.

Of course, I can't answer for Mr. Rusczyk, so wait for him to reply.

[jb05]

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I got 8 on the AIME, and I'm im middle school (well... was). I usually get about that (I've been getting 10s lately), and I get 1 a lot on olympiads (very, very rarely more). Would this be a good idea for me?

[DPopov]

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Once again I would advise joining only if you can deal with not being able to solve a problem for hours, days, and even weeks. Although I myself am not the best source (I got 10 on USAMO), I know many extremely talented middle school and even elementary school individuals who would not do well in this course simply because they are not used to facing extremely intimidating problems.

[joml88]

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[rrusczyk]

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jb05 - yes, you'll fit WOOT well.

As for middle school students, I think if WOOT were the only thing in the world available to them, there are plenty of MS students who could get something out of WOOT. However, I think that most MS students would be far better off spending the year in our independent study and subject classes, and aiming to take WOOT the following year. Also, there's a bit of a temperament issue - some students are not at all bothered by only being able to do 15% of the problems by themselves. They enjoy seeing others tackle hard problems and trying to figure out how the others did it. However, many students get very discouraged if they can't do it themselves, or can't do the problems without a great deal of help. This latter group should wait for WOOT until they are more prepared.

Also, I'll note that if you scored 5-6 on this year's AIME, whether or not you are ready for WOOT will largely depend on what you're doing between that AIME and the start of WOOT. We know several 4's on this year's AIME who will get quite a bit from WOOT. We know some 6's that won't.

[darktreb]

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Why couldn't this stuff have been around before I graduated from high school?

How's the grading going to be taken care of? Sounds like there's going to be a lot of tests to grade....

[rrusczyk]

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[DPopov]

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Up until this year's AIME I prepared for every contest the night before (sometimes two nights before). Unfortunately that strategy only worked in middle school and when I hit highschool things started getting harder.

[MithsApprentice]

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[jb05]

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lol 1 point. That's when I don't get 1 problem (yes, that's what I meant). Think of it this way: how would I know how judges would score me? I can't predict a 2, but I can predict one problem, whether that means 6, 7, whatever.

Sounds like I'd like W00T (I had decided as much, but just wanted to personally ask). I may wait until next year anyway; see if I make MOSP...

[Singular]

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what about canadian students?? how come DE shaw doesnt think of them!!!



edit: (i _know_)

[Valentin Vornicu]

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[chess64]

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[rrusczyk]

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[jb05]

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It's the first year. Give it some getting used to and then they can expand. Maybe you'll get in free later.