MathLinks Forum LaTeX Help AoPS Classes Books Classroom MathLinks Contest Math Resources
The time now is Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:42 pm
All times are UTC + 2
View posts since last visit
View unanswered posts
View previous topicView next topic
5 Posts • Page 1 of 1
Author Message
nsato
Admin
Admin


Offline
Joined: 20 May 2005
Posts: 2413
Location: San Diego, California
CanadaUnited States

To rate posts you must be logged in
#1
Logarithmic identity
MSRI Emissary

Prove or disprove: For all positive integers n,
\left \lceil \frac{2}{2^{1/n}-1}\right \rceil = \left \lfloor \frac{2n}{\log 2}\right \rfloor.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:54 am
Rust
Birch & Swinnerton Dyer
Birch & Swinnerton Dyer

Offline
Joined: 10 Feb 2006
Posts: 3695

To rate posts you must be logged in
#2
Let
x=\frac{2}{2^{1/n}-1}=\frac{2}{e^{ln2/n}-1}=\frac{2n}{ln2}\frac{1}{1+(1/2!)(2y)+(1/3!)(2y)^{2}+(1/4!)(2y)^{3}+...}, y=\frac{l....
Then
1>z=\frac{1}{1+y+(2/3)y^{2}+(1/3)y^{3}+..}>\frac{1}{\frac{1}{1-y}}=1-y.
Therefore \frac{2n}{ln2}-1<x<\frac{2n}{ln2}.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:23 am
Rust
Birch & Swinnerton Dyer
Birch & Swinnerton Dyer

Offline
Joined: 10 Feb 2006
Posts: 3695

To rate posts you must be logged in
#3
I prove only [x+1]\ge [1/y]. But I don't chek, that can not be
(*) [x]=[\frac{1}{y}].
Exactly \frac{1}{y}-1+\frac{1}{3}y-y^{3}<x<\frac{1}{y}-1+\frac{1}{3}y. Therefore if (*), then n=P_{2k}.
Let \frac{P_{k}}{Q_{k}} is good rational approach for \frac{ln2}{2}.
We have P_{1}=1,Q_{1}=2 and \frac{P_{2k}}{Q_{2k}}<\frac{ln2}{2}<\frac{P_{2k+1}}{Q_{2k+1}}. If n=P_{2k} we get
Q_{2k}-\frac{1}{P_{2k+1}}<\frac{1}{y}<Q_{2k}. Because x and y irrational, Q_{2k}-\frac{1}{P_{2k+1}}<\frac{1}{y}<Q_{2k}-1 and x>Q_{2k}-1 if P_{2k+1}>3Q_{2k}.
When P_{2k+1}>3Q_{2k} your statement is not true for n=P_{2k}.
If q_{2k+1}\ge 9, then P_{2k+1}>3Q_{2k} and [x]=[\frac{1}{y}],
were \frac{P_{2k+1}}{Q_{2k+1}}=[0;q_{1},q_{2},...,q_{2k+1}].

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:52 am
maxal
Riemann Hypothesis
Riemann Hypothesis


Offline
Joined: 09 Apr 2005
Posts: 387

To rate posts you must be logged in
#4
A counterexample is n=777451915729368, for which
\left \lceil \frac{2}{2^{1/n}-1}\right \rceil = \left \lfloor \frac{2n}{\log 2}\right \rfloor+1.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:48 pm
maxal
Riemann Hypothesis
Riemann Hypothesis


Offline
Joined: 09 Apr 2005
Posts: 387

To rate posts you must be logged in
#5
Further examples are listed in A129935 @ OEIS.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:47 pm
Display posts from previous:   Sort by:   
5 Posts • Page 1 of 1
View previous topicView next topic
Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
You cannot post calendar events in this forum

Created and Maintained by Valentin Vornicu - (c) AoPS Inc. 2004-2008