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Peter
Birch & Swinnerton Dyer


Offline Joined: 05 May 2004 Posts: 5202 Location: Ghent
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N 17 [GML, pp. 173]
Suppose that and are distinct real numbers such that are all integers. Show that and are integers.
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 2:25 am |
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edriv
Poincare Conjecture


Offline Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 192 Location: Italy
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First, we prove that a,b are rational numbers.
Then we can find three integers a',b',n such that:
The hypotesis translates to .
Now, and we can suppose . Therefore .
Let d be the integer such that . First, we suppose d>1.
We have . We get , but , therefore and . (in this step we must remember that d>1).
Now we consider 2(d+1). We know that . But , then and . But , then finally .
But therefore, n=1 and a,b are integers.
If , then and and , as before. Then n=2 and a',b' are odd integers such that a'-b' is a multiple of 2 but not of 4. Let us take d such that . Let us take a positive integer k such that (this obviously exists).
But then . We must find factors 2 in this product. But if x,y are odd integers, . And by hypotesis, and by hypotesis. Therefore we find exactly factors 2 in this product, which is too low.
I hope it is correct!
I hope it is correct!
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 2:25 am |
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bambaman
Riemann Hypothesis


Offline Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 337 Location: Haifa, Israel
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Solution using a useful lemma
Lets say we showed that a,b are rational (like edriv did). Let:
. If we show that , we get: , , or: are integers. It follows from the following lemma:
Lemma: If for all , where , are integers, then: .
Proof: Let p be a prime divisor of a, , ( ). We have, by "Lifting the Exponent" lemma:
or (in the case p=2):
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We can put that together in the following way - .
It implies that: for all n>1. Let . We have: , which implies that:
for all n>1. It can't happen for large n unless or .
First case - . It means that , or: for all n, which gives , and then also .
Second case - , or: .
Q.E.D.
"Lifting the Exponent": If p is an odd prime, and a,b are integers, and: , we have:
If p=2, , we have:
I have dropped out some minor details, ask a question or point an error if you find one.
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:33 pm |
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No Reason
Poincare Conjecture

Offline Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 117 Location: Luong The Vinh High School,Dong Nai,Viet Nam
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Sorry for spam.But what "GML" mean ?
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 2:28 pm |
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hsiljak
Navier-Stokes Equations

Offline Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Posts: 1180 Location: Zenica/Sarajevo
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I assume it's George T. Gilbert, Mark I. Krusemeyer, Loren C. Larson, The Wohascum County Problem Book, MAA.
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_________________ Engineer outside [mathematician inside].
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:33 pm |
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xxp2000
Riemann Hypothesis

Offline Joined: 17 Oct 2008 Posts: 258
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Here is a proof a little bit different from edriv. It is the same up to
, .
We can also assume wlog.
Let , we know
, where is binomial coefficients.
We can always find big with .
Note the first term on RHS is multiple of . So we have , or .
Then the first term on RHS is multiple of , or . So we have , or .
Then the first term on RHS is multiple of , or . So we have , or .
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We have for any big integer , being nonzero finite number implies . Hence and 
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:45 pm |
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